#0 · Nov 26, 2002, 10:09 · Lysear
If anyone gets out of their body from now on go to stonehenge in England and at least then after a few months someone will hopefully meet up with someone. If you've never been there before then if you get out and make it there come on the forum and describe to everyone what you saw and hopefully we can corroberate! any meetings, seeing anyone from fourm or elsewhere then post it on here!
i think this should be a locked topic and we should really have a go at this. so anyone who's going out tonight have a go and report back here!!
sorry but I'm dead excitied this is a good idea man!!
Lysear
#1 · Nov 26, 2002, 10:20 · Lysear
#2 · Nov 26, 2002, 10:27 · Lysear
I would request that if its possible could some of the more experienced members get on board here and lets make a real go of it, also I dont know if you still read this mr Bruce but what do you think?
Lysear
#3 · Nov 26, 2002, 17:21 · Lysear
#4 · Nov 26, 2002, 21:24 · Patty
I haven't projected in a while, but I'll try to dream about stonehenge tonite for kicks.
Patty
#5 · Nov 26, 2002, 23:56 · wisp
#6 · Nov 27, 2002, 06:43 · wisp
I don't recall outdoor scenes as well as indoor. Maybe you can pick a place inside with a well known window in it ( a picture I can see of this room and a window).
I do better if I can align my window (physical) to where I want to go.
This is interesting and worth exploring.
#7 · Nov 27, 2002, 08:55 · Lysear
#8 · Nov 27, 2002, 09:42 · Patty
THere's nothing wrong with Stonehenge or any other landmark. No one landmark is better or worse than another. But I think that it is not that you actually go to the physical location ----- maybe people end up at an astral version of the place or soemthing, and details vary from person to person and from one time to the next.
Patty
#9 · Nov 27, 2002, 11:46 · Lysear
#10 · Nov 27, 2002, 12:02 · helen
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#11 · Nov 27, 2002, 12:30 · wisp
http://www.tribo.org/stlouis/arch.html
This link shows the construction of the arch which may be a good visual aid (for me anyway).
http://www.nps.gov/jeff/arch-slides.htm
If there are better pictures at a landmark more familiar to all, I would give that a try too. What ya think? Or, try Stonehenge again? I'll check out some pictures.
#12 · Nov 27, 2002, 14:36 · Frank
Yours,
Frank
#13 · Nov 27, 2002, 14:53 · helen
#14 · Nov 27, 2002, 15:14 · Tracy
Even if it ended up being an astral version of stonehenge, the objective is to go to a place at will and try to meet eachother there. So I say lets go for it anyway.
#15 · Nov 27, 2002, 15:38 · helen
---------TRACY ------------I have never been to STONEHENGE.---------Come on , do not say that I have not cheered you up -----------even a Little-----------------------and hey! TRACY -----------------YES I will Look to the Left of me and I realy do hope to see you------------stay safe any-way---------------------------------all the best------Helen.
#16 · Nov 28, 2002, 06:01 · Lysear
#17 · Nov 28, 2002, 09:13 · Frank
Yours,
Frank
#18 · Nov 28, 2002, 11:09 · auraseer
I tried this last night. Id just like to point out that I have never been to stone henge.
All I can remember is a round pile of stones, like a doorway. It was situated on a hill which was lushious green with grass. It was dark, about midnight.
Is this what stonehenge looks like?
Cya,
auraseer.
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#19 · Nov 28, 2002, 11:31 · Synapse
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#20 · Nov 28, 2002, 17:36 · Lysear
#21 · Nov 28, 2002, 21:49 · Leyla
1) fix my neck
2) find the card my room-mate hid- so I can report back what it is and where she hid it.
I find I can't remember more than two things at a time.
I'd like to add that nobody is ever going to get Randy's million. No matter how strenious the test he always says it wasn't conducted "properly."
Translation: "I didn't get the results I wanted."
#22 · Nov 28, 2002, 23:21 · wisp
#23 · Nov 29, 2002, 09:24 · wisp
Before going to sleep I tried visualizing Stonehenge. This image came into my mind. A round white circle, on this white circle are animal and/or human figures (blurry).On the upper part of the circle is a bear (bigger in proportion to the rest of the figures). The center of the circle is what looks like an igloo with a door (blurry door).
#24 · Nov 29, 2002, 10:01 · Tracy
Wisp,
What an interesting vision, I loved seeing the animals when you discribed them. It reminded me of a scene I read in the Hobbit by Tolkien. The dwarves and one hobbit where staying the night at a animal friends house ,a giant bear, and were warned to stay inside the house all night long. They were very curious about why. In the middle of the night, some of the fellow friends woke up to hear the sound of many bears, a giant bear party was underway. Can you imagine seeing a ton of bears ouside dancing under the full moon around a huge fire?
I just wanted to share that bit of story.
Best Wishes,
Tracy
#25 · Nov 29, 2002, 14:13 · Windameir
Gee Would someone come on by and get me on the way to stonehenge Still workin on gettin out an don't want to get left out
and Hey Frank will ya find out what Helen wants She Keeps SCREAMIN on the board thanks Happy Holidays To All !!!
Happy Travels
Windameir
#26 · Nov 29, 2002, 15:51 · Frank
Helen, honestly I love you to bits . Please say you are no-longer offended.
Yours,
Frank
ps.
Okay I used to have a job on New street if that helps.
#27 · Nov 30, 2002, 07:15 · Synapse
soon i am going near stonehenge so i might as well go there and spend an hour or two to really set it in my mind. im lucky because i live quite near ( still quite a long drive)
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#28 · Nov 30, 2002, 09:26 · Tracy
Sure, I wish we can go grab a friend and go for a nice fly. Why...oh....why can't this be possible, it would be so much nicer to team up with a friend.
Here is the famous poem about Strider from the second book (I couldn't resist posting it)
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From the ashes a fire shall be woken.
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.
--Tolkien
#29 · Nov 30, 2002, 15:01 · Windameir
Long Live Aragorn! Long Live the King
Happy Travels
Windameir
#30 · Dec 01, 2002, 00:17 · wonderboy
I found your post most interesting. Finding the card your roommate hid and all. Just 2 days prior to thanksgiving I saw the card sitting face up on a shelf near the ceiling of the room which my roommate had put there. This was supposed to 'validate' something or at least bring an end to the 4 month long debate between the Astral projection is real vs the b*llsh*t debate between the two factions of my friends. However, after 4 months of trying
finally succeeding was enormously satisfying, (including several projections where I got sidetracked before looking at the card) ultimately the nonbelievers have since devised about 20 different tests for me to perform
that would "REALLY" prove it. HA! What a waste of time. This brings up an interesting question though, for several months I had a goal, one which in many ways helped me to get out, but preoccupied my time while exploring
'non-physical reality' I'm curious what some other people who project have as a goal when they are out. Meeting at stonehenge sounds great for those great britain residents who may have been there, but for those of us who haven't I can only imagine a whole lot of mentally fabricated stonehenge visits that are created from our imaginations. I've heard of people meeting their guides which I haven't done yet, and is next on my agenda. RB suits up and deals with negs which sounds intriguing. What do you guys do on any given trip to the RTZ? When you shoot out and fly across the room to get away from your body (still working on my TMI phasing routine from frank's wonderful posts) is that as good a place to call for your guide as any? ...And on that note, what does one really "think/say" across the astral to summon the guide? Right now I'm thinking "Hello, could my guide come here please?"
These are just some of the things floating around in my head. Any suggestions are appreciated before I find myself bewildered and wondering what the girl next door wears to bed although perhaps that could be another test my friends would devise. Thanks for your help, and I have to say I look forward to reading these message boards before I project, I find it helps me get into the right frame of mind. Thanks everyone.
Wonderboy
>I'd like to join but I have other things on my astral to do list.
>1) fix my neck
>2) find the card my room-mate hid- so I can report back what it is and where she hid it.
#31 · Dec 01, 2002, 08:56 · Synapse
wonderboy- if you have trouble imagining what stonehenge looks like why dont you find a picture on the net.
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#32 · Dec 01, 2002, 08:59 · Synapse
http://www.amherst.edu/~ermace/sth/photos.html
#33 · Dec 01, 2002, 09:22 · wisp
#34 · Dec 01, 2002, 19:53 · coral1
I used Stonehenge as the intent for one of my exercises the other day.I briefly found myself in a vast empty space with stone pillars rising in the distance,but I had the impression that I was indoors- more like one of those huge european cathedrals. It was a short event but still very cool! Having a target in mind helps my astral sight kick in,and actually meeting someone would be great fun. I`ll be looking for you...
coral1
#35 · Dec 01, 2002, 21:25 · ralphm
#36 · Dec 02, 2002, 09:25 · wisp
Is Stonehenge in a country setting? Is there alot of wild life there?
#37 · Dec 02, 2002, 09:58 · Synapse
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#38 · Dec 02, 2002, 16:21 · Sandy
& thanks Synapse for the link with the pics-I think that should help us to visualize it.
#39 · Dec 03, 2002, 12:58 · jason
#40 · Dec 03, 2002, 19:29 · Tisha
Some of you are operating from what might be a mistaken assumption; ie., that there is only one Stonehenge for you to go to.
In my experience, on the Astral there are an infinite number of Stonehenges, and you could end up at any of them.
And the chances of you all meeting at the same one . . . . ? Without a strong emotional/physical/spiritual connection to one another, your chances are probably about . . . . ?
I have friends who do this. Not at Stonehenge, but another stone circle in the U.S. However, they've been working closely for 20+ years, raised each other's children, pray together, some of them live together, etc.
Sooooo . . . the moral of my story is . . . if you yearn to meet folks you know in the earthly realm on the Astral, then, by all means start your work in the physical realm with your soul mates who also OBE. It can be done!
Tisha
"As Above, So Below"
#41 · Dec 04, 2002, 02:35 · clandestino
the only feasible way for everyone to meet at stone henge would involve all the interested parties having a very strong emotional link with one person who would be a common factor....
Then that one person would wait physically at stone henge and everyone else could home in on their "signal". This would be a tricky exercise to organise !!!!
#42 · Dec 04, 2002, 10:39 · wisp
I'm very enthused. I looked up about wolves (since I saw one at the destination). I already knew animals mean "instinctual". The wolfe was howling at the site. This book said wolves howl for several reasons, one being to gather it's pack together. This is a good sign for me. Symbolically this could be a heralding of the gathering we're going for.
I think anything is possible!
Another point about this. Since everyone is so far from each other it would be a reasonable intent to meet through the astral. The meeting would seem less likely to happen (for comparison sake only) if you can just walk or drive, or just turn to talk to them for that matter. The natural order of things and all in the physical and/or in the astral (may even find out more on this alone). Just my own point of view.
#43 · Dec 04, 2002, 17:27 · Romero Cunha
I have been quickly reading this chain of posts.
Let me help you a bit here.
For you to meet astraly, it is not as simple as to imagine to be in a certain place and go there.
Things aren't that way.
Two cenarios might happen:
You would, more likely, project to a "created reality", or even if you succeed to go there, the chances of meeting someone at the time you want to would be small.
This because to reach to a physical place, I mean, in the physical realm, you must knwo how to go there physically, i.e. know the way there, even if flying, or at least use a direct portal to go there, what will create some type of astral coordinates that will direct you to a certain place.
That is essential to get orientation in the astral plane.
I would like to remind you that the coordinates in the astral plane are not three, but four, remember the Chronos coordinate: Time.
Even if two of you go to a physical place at the same physical hour, that doesn't mean that you will be there astraly at the same time, for time is changeable there.
You can leap to the future (even if just one hour ahead) or to the past.
Then even in the real time zone you have three astral subplanes.
The astral meeting experiences for beginners must be done according to certain rules that will gradualy aproximate the possibility of success.
Finding a physical place is not hard, and stonehenge can be an idea, though, as it is an energetic vortex and it has many mental phenomena and associations with it (due to many cults, and ideias people have on that place), that will create a lot of astral distractions difficult to distinguish, of what is just a mental impression and an astral reality, and control by unexperimented practitioners will be difficult.
The symbolic manifestations would surely distract the beginner and would capture his conscience. As beginners always haven't much energy in the astral projection, they would spend it in that (reading symbols) instead of obtaining the goal of a meeting.
So, a simpler place is easier, but if you want my opinion, the creation of an Astral Locus would be the best. I would advise you to ask the help of one experienced person to do that.
Because of my duties with the Hermetic Fraternity I don't dispose the time, at the moment, to help you in this, nevertheless, I can indicate you some astral temples you may want to visit and meet there.
If, you want to start an experience like that by your own, you must learn a lot first.
I am just saying this to you to help, not to criticise. Your experience is valid, but for you to succeed, you need to know more than the basics to do it.
I have met with Robert in the Astral Plane several times, in the present and in the past. I was one of the Astral Knights in the Laurellae experience, as Robert may testify you. So, take my word seriously and avoid a lot of disappointments.
Those interested in knowing more on this should go to www.abardoncompanion.com and read the Beneath an Astral Moon, experience.
There you will learn how to do this astral meetings.
Nevertheless, though they are fascinating, they also need a lot of commitment and practice.
My best to you all
Romero Lourenço Da Cunha
#44 · Dec 05, 2002, 10:35 · wisp
The site you gave is excellent. I've been there three or four times already, and I plan to learn all I can there. I'm even more interested in this subject now that I have read the details involved.
Your offer of an astral temple is so kind. How does one go about finding it?
I assume this is an Astral Locus which has already been established. I'm already learning that an established one would surely be easier for a beginner than having to create one. Is my thinking along the right lines?
I'm going to also start developing my astral locale. I'm still not clear how or what to do there yet, but I plan to cover the material more at the link you gave.
I want to further my personal journey on this subject matter. Thank you for opening a new door for me.
About stonehenge, depending what the others want about the alternative location, I guess would be up to the group. The feather focus mentioned in the Beneath the Astral Moon might be a good addition if all chooses to carry on with the Stonehenge meeting.
Is it possible to seek the astral temple and Stonehenge at the same time (not simutaneously)? Or is it best to focus on one project at a time?
#45 · Dec 05, 2002, 13:17 · Lysear
"man makes his own history, but he does not make it out of whole cloth; he does not make it out of conditions chosen by himself but out of such as he finds close at hand. -Karl Marx
#46 · Dec 05, 2002, 19:48 · Romero Cunha
In that same site I recommended you form Rawn, a friend of mine, you have there a text called Eight Temple meditation project. There is a downloadavle version too. There you will find portals to go to Astral temples.
Rawn is an Advenaced Magician and if you want some help from him, just let me know and I will chat withi him about it.
My best to you,
Romero Cunha
#47 · Dec 06, 2002, 10:57 · wisp
just fine. It's nice of you to offer assistance if need be.
#48 · Dec 07, 2002, 06:29 · Synapse
i think we shoul keep trying for as long as it takes.
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#49 · Dec 10, 2002, 05:36 · wisp
Lysear, thank you for thinking of this and suggesting it on in this forum.
Romero, I've been visiting and learning about the Eight Temple meditation project. It's been quite the eye opener for me. It's brought to me the sense of order of thought (not sure if that the right way to say it). I'm sticking with the learning process there. I've never been one to understand or perform meditation practice. This site is easy to learn and follow. Your friend Rawn must be a genius! In the recent past I've looked over a little bit about the subject of the Qabbalistic Tree of Life (a varied form in another book), I felt it connected with The Truth. The web site, A Bardon Companion ,as well as here at Astral Pulse of course has been just what I needed to connect how I think, and then to be able to connect to other established thinking patterns. It's hard to explain really.
I looking forward to getting into the meditation part of the astral temple. Just thought I would follow up with you on this.
#50 · Dec 12, 2002, 21:08 · Do
#51 · Dec 13, 2002, 15:16 · wisp
#52 · Dec 23, 2002, 12:22 · wisp
I just wanted to post that I haven't given up on my journeys. I've just been delayed a little by this wolf I'm facing.
Interesting stuff, I'm learning alot. Thanks again Romero for that temple site, I'm working at getting into the front entrance. I was intercepted almost immediately by a wolf. Did you by chance know that was going to happen?
#53 · Dec 23, 2002, 13:28 · Synapse
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