#0 · Apr 17, 2005, 23:10 · knightlight
I had 1 obe and 2 lucid dreams practically at will last week, but nothing since then.
The only times I have successfully made it clear of my body into the RTZ has been accompanied by vibrations that came mysteriously. I have had 3 obes without vibrations, but they put me in more of a very lucid dream than anything. How do you guys induce vibrations? I have attempted the instructions given in Journeys out of the Body which I recently purchased, but it hasn't worked for me yet. I figure at this point I am finally forced to face the fact that I cant obe until I can induce vibrations myself, and not wait for them to come to me. Would my other experiences without vibrations be phasing? I can only phase accidentally it seems. Any input would be awesome.
#1 · Apr 17, 2005, 23:26 · Dixie
I, too, recently purchased Journeys Out of the Body and have been trying this vibration technique. The only result I've achieved is rapid twitching on my physical face. (?)
Last week, I felt the vibrations for the first time, but I have no idea how I got there, and it was before I received the book. They also went away rather quickly.
#2 · Apr 17, 2005, 23:44 · Ben K
#3 · Apr 17, 2005, 23:52 · Frank
I used to get vibrations all the time up until a few years ago when I began the initial work on what became my Phasing Model. I found the vibrations came from a particular interaction between the two energy centres purple and yellow. Nowadays I hardly ever get them unless I activate these areas, which I have no real need to do. In my Phasing approach, you should not get any vibrations or any kind of exit-symptoms at all.
Vibrations tend to come as a result of people shifting their perception about within Focus 1 of consciousness, for example, energy-work or RTZ projection. These are actions that take place within F1oC. Vibrations are symptomatic of the various perception shifts that people can initiate within this area of consciousness.
With Phasing, you seek not to merely shift your perception within one particular area in consciousness. With Phasing, you keep your perception as it is, and set-out to initiate a phase-shift in your actual area in consciousness. This is a different action entirely. It is interesting that if you phase-shift to Focus 2 of consciousness and then start shifting your perception about within Focus 2, in a similar way to how people do within Focus 1, you can also get vibrations, still remain within Focus 2 of consciousness, but experience them as an F2/F1 overlay.
Yours,
Frank
#4 · Apr 18, 2005, 01:52 · knightlight
Thanks for the input. I have been having problems with phasing when I try to phase. Even if the thought if phasing was in my initial mind as I began practice, I can not phase. If I am attempting to obe, and then kind of just think "forget about'it" and go into a trance for a while I tend to start to phase, but cant complete it. I guess once I thought the roadblocks where clear new ones decided to fall in place. I will re-read your peace on phasing and give it a shot. Thanks again.
#5 · Apr 18, 2005, 02:07 · Ben K
But if you can learn to hold the 3d blackness, which i think is F2oC, im told great things can happen. You can let your imagination run wild, and engage in any construct youd like. You can also go "backwards"(in linear terms) to the RTZ if you wish. But if you want to go further you can phase further into F3 or F4. And there is much more info in some other posts if you want to use the search feature to find them. Im off to bed
#6 · Apr 18, 2005, 02:22 · Ben K
#7 · Apr 18, 2005, 09:57 · Makaveli
Now that the vibes and exit sensations are gone lately I have no idea how it is that I'm ending up out of body. It just sort of happens without any awareness of how I got there before I find myself in an AP. I've had about 150 projections with and without vibrations but the sad thing is that I don't think I've ever made it past F2 besides for a few RTZ experiences.
#8 · Apr 20, 2005, 14:11 · nicedreams
#9 · Apr 21, 2005, 10:20 · Blank
so...
how do I increase vibrations if when I think about them they dissapear?