#0 · Apr 17, 2005, 01:17 · sandmage
#1 · Apr 17, 2005, 16:10 · Ben K
However, when you look at the effects drugs have i think it ties in really closesly with the phasing model. And yeah, in some cases it can in effect, tear down some of the veils we have created for ourselves.
To answer your question, yes, we are all related on a different level of awareness.
#2 · Apr 17, 2005, 17:04 · patapouf
Take care,
#3 · Apr 17, 2005, 17:25 · GeKKo
I do believe however it is possible to encounter one another on another plane (for instance in the astral). This does not imply that we have some part of our mind in common, just that we walk the same reality (be it on the first or second plane).
#4 · Apr 17, 2005, 19:17 · Ben K
#5 · Apr 17, 2005, 22:09 · coolbreeze
Quote This does not imply that we have some part of our mind in common, just that we walk the same reality (be it on the first or second plane).Quite agree there too. Just want to throw what I've read out there
#6 · Apr 17, 2005, 22:27 · Frank
Yeah, that's right. In a way, we are all very much individuals but we're plugged into the same "network". Just like my computer is connected to the Internet and can communicate to other computers on the network, but I do not lose the individuality of my machine. Our minds are surprisingly similar. The main connections, so to speak, are held within Focus 4 of consciousness.
I've never taken any drugs apart from the odd prescription medicine and a moderate amount of alcohol. I certainly wouldn't recommend people take drugs in order to have experiences. Fresh mushrooms are legal in the UK, and when I used to live there, I have known people who have taken mushrooms. Unfortunately, they all simply end up having whacky experiences that they are not mentally and emotionally prepared to handle. Plus, I cannot for the life of me understand how people can eat those things. They actually smell of rotting flesh and blood. Just smelling them makes me want to puke.
In any event, the crux of this whole thing is not merely to have whacky experiences. It's all about learning how to become a serious practitioner of the art. In my view, the drugs aspect is highly detrimental to our credibility in our becoming of a legitimate science.
Yours,
Frank
#7 · Apr 17, 2005, 23:35 · Ben K
Quote from: Frank Ben:Aha, I learn fast eh? Well the subject really captivates me(cant wait for your book btw!)
Yeah, that's right. In a way, we are all very much individuals but we're plugged into the same "network". Just like my computer is connected to the Internet and can communicate to other computers on the network, but I do not lose the individuality of my machine. Our minds are surprisingly similar. The main connections, so to speak, are held within Focus 4 of consciousness.
I've never taken any drugs apart from the odd prescription medicine and a moderate amount of alcohol. I certainly wouldn't recommend people take drugs in order to have experiences. Fresh mushrooms are legal in the UK, and when I used to live there, I have known people who have taken mushrooms. Unfortunately, they all simply end up having whacky experiences that they are not mentally and emotionally prepared to handle. Plus, I cannot for the life of me understand how people can eat those things. They actually smell of rotting flesh and blood. Just smelling them makes me want to puke.
In any event, the crux of this whole thing is not merely to have whacky experiences. It's all about learning how to become a serious practitioner of the art. In my view, the drugs aspect is highly detrimental to our credibility in our becoming of a legitimate science.
Yours,
Frank
#8 · Apr 18, 2005, 02:19 · Logic
Its possible that it is all one coincidence of relation between our un/subconsious minds, or that we percieve and translate it into our own conception of reality, but I highly doubt that either is likely. Regardless, any collective consciousness can only be percieved from ones consciousness (unless transcending whatever barriers distinguish between ones consciousness and anything else)