#0 · Feb 17, 2005, 01:34 · NeoSaturn

is there any way to harm yourself during AP for any reason? and what happens if you stay in obe for too long?

#1 · Feb 17, 2005, 01:36 · NeoSaturn

screw it i'm packing it in early, its 10:35 here and i need to meditate so see ya!

#2 · Feb 17, 2005, 08:30 · Telos

I don't want to sound cranky, but have you tried a search? This question is asked quite a bit.

The overwhelming answer is "no," but allowing leeway for the possibility of being mentally or emotionally hurt.

Just a few nights ago I had a semi-lucid dream where someone attached a bomb to my teeth. It exploded. But I'm alright.
Quote screw it i'm packing it in early, its 10:35 here and i need to meditate so see ya!
Lucky for you, this is a forum, not a chat room. So, your topic will always be here (barring any malfunctions or the discretion of the mods).

#3 · Feb 17, 2005, 09:33 · alexd

I have a question relevant to this. Is the astral body eternal? If someone, say tries to kill you in the astral plane what would happen?

Alex

#4 · Feb 17, 2005, 10:06 · gyver8448

they attached a bomb to your teath weird i have had some strange dreams before though lol

#5 · Feb 17, 2005, 10:09 · gyver8448

and to your question alexd i myselfe have never actually ap'd before so am not actually 100% sure on this but from what i can figure out id have to say no since you dont actually have a physical body to harm but i suppose theres allways the possability of that but again im not really to sure about these things

#6 · Feb 17, 2005, 13:01 · Telos

Quote from: alexd I have a question relevant to this. Is the astral body eternal? If someone, say tries to kill you in the astral plane what would happen?
It seems like the consensus to that first question is "yes," and I tend to agree. As for the second, every time that I have been killed in astral/lucid dreams, one of two things happens. 1) I feel as if I "hit bottom," that things are "over," and it's "the end," and I wake up. 2) The experience warps and changes to become something different, maybe even more vivid one.

Number one is way more likely if I've fallen some distance, and number two is more likely if... I don't know, someone bludgeons me in the face or something. [ Edit: or if someone attaches a bomb to your teeth] So, swim at your own risk. ;)

#7 · Feb 17, 2005, 16:02 · Frank

Is this a serious question?

I mean, people spend ages and ages just to have one fleeting obe every now and again, and here you are wondering what will happen if you stay in that state too long. I think a lot of people here would dearly love to have that luxury of obe-ing too long, and with too much awareness too, lol.

Yours,
Frank

#8 · Feb 18, 2005, 03:40 · alexd

When I was thinking about it I was actually pondering what would happen after physical death. After physical death it is likely that we go to the astral plane, and if we die there obviously there is nowhere to wake up to. Thanks for your replies.

Alex